Democratic socialism

[commander fury]

https://bitly.com/ExplainingSocialism
This can apply to kinda every country in the world.
I think it's a pretty fair system, but I still doubt about it.
In my opinion we should better make a welfare system but only for the poorest, so it'd be of higher quality for the really needy persons.

What ya thinkin ?

[deadalive200]

As your comrade, and an active politician,and someone working on a Political Science Degree let me put my word in.

First of all, this... person... is wrong...

"Democratic Socialism consists of a democratic form of government with a mix of socialism and capitalism. I proceeded to explain to her the actual meaning terms “democracy” and “socialism”."

Democratic Socialism... has nothing at all to do with capitalism... It's includes nothing of capitalism... it could be a strictly Left-Wing system, this all depends on the independent variable of this, the word "Democratic"

If the people want a mix of both, they get both, if they want a strictly Left-Wing system, they can get a Left-Wing system..

To sum this part and to open a door to the next, it could also be a strong or even strictly Right-Wing system.. I know, crazy... let me explain.

The word, and meaning of "Democratic Socialism" is something I strongly disagree with. Due to the fact that is was really only made for people, primary Americans and some Soviets under Stalin, to explain a system of their wishes.

For the Americans, It was a word and a way that they could speak and talk about Socialism, without having the "Red Terror" aspect placed upon them.

For the Soviets, It was word that allowed them to express their hatred for the strongly authoritarian policies of Stalin, and even after into the end of the Soviet Union itself.

To explain my hatred for the word, I can do so in easy terms for everyone, It was created by Americans so for people who believed Socialism and Communism to be innately Undemocratic, to see a system that would be both the two formers and the latter.

This, is wrong. against most Americans, excuse me for a moment, Ungodly stupid and ******* dumb beliefs, Socialism and Communism, are naturally and from the beginning, Democratic.

Allow me to give you a quote, from the man himself.

"We have seen above, that the first step in the revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class to win the battle of democracy."

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"Democracy is the road to socialism."

-Karl Marx

[shadowslayer]

*Sees title*

What about Obama?

[deadalive200]

*Sees title*

What about Obama?

Obama....
Obama....

Who gives a damn about Obama!

In my view, Obama is just barely in the eyes of Socialism. He's a Democrat who is just a little bit Left-Wing and a Little more progressive than all the other Democrats (and certainly all the Republicans)
So, like in most times in America, since the dawn of Socialism, the put the "Red Terror" label on him of

Spoiler

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SOCIALIST!!

It has the same effect as calling someone a Witch or a Heretic in the 1400's

Depends on how much influence they have, who they are, and in all just luck in whether everyone hates them, or no one cares...

Expect the really Right-Wing/Conservative (In the case of the example, the really Religious/People with Vendettas) They always care...

[SuperNovaX]

*Sees title*

What about Obama?

Obama....
Obama....

Who gives a damn about Obama!

In my view, Obama is just barely in the eyes of Socialism. He's a Democrat who is just a little bit Left-Wing and a Little more progressive than all the other Democrats (and certainly all the Republicans)
So, like in most times in America, since the dawn of Socialism, the put the "Red Terror" label on him of

Spoiler

Show

SOCIALIST!!

It has the same effect as calling someone a Witch or a Heretic in the 1400's

Depends on how much influence they have, who they are, and in all just luck in whether everyone hates them, or no one cares...

Expect the really Right-Wing/Conservative (In the case of the example, the really Religious/People with Vendettas) They always care...

+10000 Dead.

[commander fury]

Well thanks for your opinions, but let's say we give it another name : I think this system could work in america.
Because as far as I know, people there seems to have a compulsive fear for communism or anything red-related.

By the way, if you were a president (Of any country) would you care most about the debt or about people's jobs and happiness ? To be honest I would care more about the people.I also think we can solve our actual problems with the solutions of yesterday : Invest into big projects to create more job like they did in the 30s : It created a lot of jobs, but nowadays It'd be impossible without creating some more debt.So that's the problem.

PS : Dead, I apologize for my ignorance, but what was the debt of ussr back in its time ? Did they even had any ?

EDIT : Thanks for the quotes.But I don't think a democracy is the best way to go, see this vid : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODJfwa9XKZQ I learnt alot from that.

[SuperNovaX]

Personally, I don't give a single fuck about the government. In America it's run by a bunch of blockhead assholes who have to shut the government when they don't get their way. What we need is someone to say "You know what? You wanna act like a baby so I'll treat you like one and fire your ass right here,right now no questions asked." But sadly that's not gonna happen anytime soon.

[Peter Brev]

yep, negros everywhere.

[commander fury]

Personally, I don't give a single fuck about the government. In America it's run by a bunch of blockhead assholes who have to shut the government when they don't get their way. What we need is someone to say "You know what? You wanna act like a baby so I'll treat you like one and fire your ass right here,right now no questions asked." But sadly that's not gonna happen anytime soon.

Sorry ? And who's going to deliver you the mail ? Who's going to build roads, hospitals, schools, pay the police, the army to protect you from the enemy countries and the thiefs ? Who's going to protect the young, weak, handiccaped, and elder people from all the thiefs and opportunists threatening them ?

You maybe pay taxes but it's the price to pay in order to have a civilized society, the actions of your government may not fit you but that's called a democracy and a republic, and thanks to that, just wait a few years and you'll have the opportunity to vote again and elect a new leader, or simply tell to the actual politics what they do wrong and what you find misplaced in their leadership of the country.

Yes.That's wonderful.That's called a republic.You don't realize how lucky you are.