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I find extroardinary how some great men fell into the bad side.

What about Hitler and Mussolini ? When they got elected, beforet heir dictatorship, they were some great men.Taking back the economy of their countries, making them great again ! But instead of continuing to doing it this way and maybe create another European Union or even to be at the level and place of the USA today, they just decided that once they git enough power they would start killing jews, blacks, arabs and invading other country.
What a waste...I'm sure that if they suceeded to not fall in the trap of racism and warmongering, they could have made, with scientific discoveries and economic improvements, the world better.

At a lower scale, if Lee had accepted Lincoln's invitation to the Head of the Union's army, I am sure that the Confederacy would have been smashed and won in not even a year, and therefore avoiding all the deaths caused.

But tough, I respect the South.
Not for racism or slavery, this is his bad side that every country has, (And btw only 20% of southern men had slaves), but I admire them for the courage they had to stand for their idea, for independency and freedom.I may even say that in front of the northern capitalist industries, I would have stand with them if I was at this time.And anyways slavery would have been abolished.But what the southern people did not understood, is that union makes the power, and without associating with the North again, the South and the North being two different countries would have lead to more wars and America would be not the giant superpower country it is nowadays.

Yeah, so that's what I got to say bout my thoughts ^^
What are yours ?
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Hitler wanted back the economy, because of the "traité de versaille", because of the first war, they had to pay $ to other countries, so hitler got mad to pay, and stopped paying. Then he wanted to get the cash that they gave within the past, attacking a part of th russia (i think), and then world war 2 started by that. He probably killed jews, because they were the first ones to build up banks, and banks were a good place to earn money, so jews got rich, and kept the money. So people got mad, and bam, all the jews in the same boat.
Am i correct?

Honestly, must not hate before saying statements about people.
If some are racist, it's to avoid strangers control, other country influence, stupid manifestations for other countries, decision contamination, and different minding... Honestly i'm not racist, mainly because i'm apathic, (i don't really care about everything), so i also don't care to not see them. And it's their country...... Here we have muslims that doesn't want to remove their stupid face-cloth... What can hide under that...
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Don't see it like a hate message... that's just that i consider this is not their place to be here if they want to bring their country with them. They want to build churches, and they carry Kirpans (kind of daggers) at school. > But that's probably all about religion.
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Yeah.. Just about "Hitler" .. Only he is from germany that don't make us to the Same Person and still follow his retard ideas.

Today 85% or more wants to stop this racism.. So it's just sad that people from other countries think that Germany is only about Hitler and cause problems :(

EveryOne trys to help people from every countrys because we are just acceptable to everyone.
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Hitler wanted back the economy, because of the "traité de versaille", because of the first war, they had to pay $ to other countries, so hitler got mad to pay, and stopped paying. Then he wanted to get the cash that they gave within the past, attacking a part of th russia (i think), and then world war 2 started by that. He probably killed jews, because they were the first ones to build up banks, and banks were a good place to earn money, so jews got rich, and kept the money. So people got mad, and bam, all the jews in the same boat.
Am i correct?

Honestly, must not hate before saying statements about people.
If some are racist, it's to avoid strangers control, other country influence, stupid manifestations for other countries, decision contamination, and different minding... Honestly i'm not racist, mainly because i'm apathic, (i don't really care about everything), so i also don't care to not see them. And it's their country...... Here we have muslims that doesn't want to remove their stupid face-cloth... What can hide under that...
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Don't see it like a hate message... that's just that i consider this is not their place to be here if they want to bring their country with them. They want to build churches, and they carry Kirpans (kind of daggers) at school. > But that's probably all about religion.
Hitler started the WW2 by attacking Poland and France.
He allied with the USSR to share Poland in two.
But then France, USA and England declared war to Germany.
That's how it started on the eastern theater of op.

Otherwise, me neither I am not racist, and absolutely against racist violence, etc, but I'm kinda agreeing with you.They can bring their traditions and all the stuff, but if it is against the laws/main traditions of the host country, then it's not okay.
So, we need to find a 'good' middle.
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Yeah.. Just about "Hitler" .. Only he is from germany that don't make us to the Same Person and still follow his retard ideas.

Today 85% or more wants to stop this racism.. So it's just sad that people from other countries think that Germany is only about Hitler and cause problems :(

EveryOne trys to help people from every countrys because we are just acceptable to everyone.
Mmmmhh I seriously doubt about that.
I know alot of people (German, frenchs, ones) that are not/Do not think that at all.
Sincerely, if ever someone still thinks germany is still causing problems, then they're retarded.
These ideas bout germany are false...Nobody believe in 'em since a long time, don't worry lol.
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If i would have a country, i would be closed to outside people trying to get inside.
Dat is mah country!
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And we should also stay where we are...

Well that's my opinion, i'm against indirect interactions.
Ill probably not change my mind on that.
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Me I would simply put taxes on chinese products, so it makes more money to destroy the debt + Promote country-made goods, jobs, and favor the economy.
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But guys, Hitler was Austrian.
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No, favoring economy is a bad thing, we must not make it a science, otherwise we just earn money, and try to find a way to obtain more and more... WE MUST KILL THE BANKERS, AND ECONOMIC LEADERS!!! (says hitler) - i would probably have a good discussion with hitler if i could talk to him.

(don't mis-understood to think i'm Nazy, i'm just nothing.)
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Yes but let's face it : If we payback debts and start to produce money ----> The other countries stop annying us and we have more money to build roads, schools, hospitals and all...
Kickin' bankers outta the country is a dream...Let's face it, it's impossible...
But yes, having a discussion with Hitler about that would be nice.
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Mustn't care about money and say "lets wait till we have the money", that would just be easier to say: hey you, give that material, me and him will repair the road. That would probably be a better world... We just go forward instead of limiting to money. Did they pay people for the pyramid? nah... money is useless.
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