A dream

[MrProjektZ]

A little upset people made real posts on this thread. But I'll live.

[deadalive200]

A little upset people made real posts on this thread. But I'll live.

Hey Man, I tried
Hold on, I got this.

[deadalive200]

[po0ka]

lol, the pact defines me... True story.
bring it up dude.

[deadalive200]

lol, the pact defines me... True story.
bring it up dude.

Bring what up?
See, this is whats wrong with the NATO pact, can't do things right

[commander fury]

Pacts, alliances, and shits like that won't bring anything.I'm totally against the European Union, the NATO or anything like that.If a war happens, that's not an alliance that will stop it.Plus, alliances like the EU only bring bad things : Crisis, euro, etc...That's why I'm against theses things.And i'm gonna tell you, the ONLY alliance that I've seen worked since ages are the United States of America.

Pooka, you're kinda right but why do the human always need more, more ?! This hunger of the "More ! Further !" thingy is a nonsense ! I can't really explain it, but, humans discoveries are good when it's about Universe or diseases, but about the phones or the buildings...waddafack.
And when you tell me that the society's goal is to survive, then tell me how we could survive, us cityfolks, that eat/drink how they want when they want, that don't know how to hunt, to fish or simply choose the right fruit.That's ridiculous.We are in a huge, deep cushion of modernity, fastness, easy-ness.We are lazy as fuck.We have the TV, the phone, the computer, the metro, the train, the plane, we don't need to do sport and even if we can eat when we want, and so make some "reservations" in case of accident, we cannot exept if we decide to go out-society and to be mocked, badly considered by all as a fat person.Or, pas in the time, being a little bit big was nice, considered as a sign of good health, but now...That's why I always whine about modernity and actual society : They make the mankind change, but change is only good when it brings good things, and at the moment, it only brings bad things.I hope that you understood me well, not a genius in english, lol .That's my opinion bout ur sayings.You live in Canada ? Oh lol, 2 of my aunts live there too.In wich city do you live ? Montreal, Edmonton or Toronto ?

@Other pples : Instead of polluting the thread with shitty picture not-even-in-spoilers, just ignore it and let the interested guys discuss normally?

[shadowslayer]

[po0ka]

Yea, the "change" is not a good thing at all in my opinion.
lets say 32 people; 4 are mad at something everyone finds correct, then, these are going to see the leader, and tell him that things needs to change asap... That guy won't ask directly people of a town, he will not walk on the street, going in the bus, and at schools to ask questions... So, he will listen to these 4 persons, and make a wrong decision that benefits lets say; 8 persons out of 32.

That is what pisses me off in the actual society.
I was doing bike before, idk if they made some laws to prevent me to have fun in bike like, wear protection, always navigate to the left of a road going forward, shits like that.

1) Wrong communication between leaders and population.
2) What ends out of that affects many things, and often results in "temporary patch up", that ends up permanent.
3) $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Lets take the new law coming soon as example if we do nothing; when you work the summer, and you are off from december to march, you will be obligated by laws to DO a job for someone requiring assistance, and that at 70% of your regular pay. -> = will be under the legal minimal pay. Think about the problems ending out of this... this was done for (3), coming from (1), and ends up in (2) with: Students will have no more summer, due to teachers not working the summer, and they will be obligated by law to find a job in a 5km radius. If students does not have summer jobs, (adults will, yes, but lets say for some days), because they have no more summer, they'll just work when they'll end out of school. What about the harvesters that gives us food? don't tell me we can harvest stuffs the winter under that nice sun and warm temperature... They will leave their job to find a suitable one that they won't need to find far away from their homes. Sadly, who will make $$? Oh wait, not us, cause we are at 70% of our salary if we work after winter... normally we were paid by not working, by being at home and automatically paid, but the work was hard. Now, no more relaxation. less $ from a new job at 70%$. = no more students = no more studies because no $$ = super cool dark era, ecomony falling, moving industries in china, poverty, etc.
That's just a fucking hole patching. Can't do it right.

the "More and more and more" comes from the interaction.
If we would lose total contact from other countries, we would live normaly without dependency.
We count on others too much, we rely our work to others because we don't want to do it.....
Then, we get free tme, but wait... lets use the others that have free time, and make them use that time to make $$.
Oh, no more free time. Well, go faster.
Oh wait... More work?

I would like to live in australia and live like a savage in a jungle.
Sadly, pay your travel. Pay your pass card. Pay to have a fire & wood & hunting card... Stupid shits like that.
pay 10,000$ to be able to climb the Everest. (doesn't count equipment, sherpas, and stuff.)

No more freedom, $ everywhere.

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wow, the text appeared smaller when i wrote it lol

[commander fury]

You're right.Money, or all things related to it, are/is rotting our world.We could do so much ! But we can't, crisis.We could live so simply off the limits of a non-oppresive society.But we can't.
Let's say that I want to live without money : I need to :
1 - Buy a land ($2000 for he lowest).
2 - Buy a rifle.
3 - Buy ammo.
4 - Buy rifle permit.
5 - Buy hunt autorization.
6 - Buy crops.
7 - Buy (useless) things for your crops and (useless) vacinations for your cattle.
8 - Buy cattle.
9 - Buy wood to build your house.
10 - Die.
A life like this is impossible at the moment.Modernity, society and money are killing us.
Money-attracted politics are making nonsense laws with tons of flaws.
People aren't so much interested or intervening, as long they have their usual comfort.
We'll surely stay stuck in a long period of recessions, crisis and economics pikes.We won't do anything good or useful.We could start to only count on ourself but we both know that it's impossible and would lead to a situation in cul-de-sac for all.But then, I guess we'll just life our life and die peacefully in our bed.But we are so much packeged that we'll surely never life the one we want to.

Ahh, I wish'd I was born in the 1830's.Or in the 1950's.

[po0ka]

Look at The ancients aliens, it's like, "they couldn't have made this temple, each rock is 2 tons heavy! they didn't have the machinery we have today! It MUST be an alien that helped them."; c'mon, old technics, no $$$ involved, none of them were paid, no gaz, no tourism shits, well, it's too hard for us to say "we ended bad with generation that we ended in the lazy way, using weak machines rather than good old technics.".
I have how we blame something elkse for a great action, or accomplishment, they found airplane models in egypt, and south america... They made small planes... BUT, it MUST be aliens, can't not be that for sure... Or there's the case of god. In their theory god>>>>SSSS<<< (as said alot in the bible with a S at end), are aliens misinterpreted for higher technologic advancements.

honestly, we are going deeper in our deception.
You can't just go out randomly, run down the hills, go swim, take a tour in a forest, make a fire and sleep.... We all have responsabilities now.
(and sleeping in a forest = dangers of being raped, but... it's another thing... lol)

[commander fury]

Youre right...Good old technics are gone, we don't believe in shit any more, everything costs somethings, and we lost our potential to machines that can't think or evolve.Sad.I have a perfect exemple of that.In my region, the Provence, and the south of the France generally, we found rocks everywhere.They are pretty heavy, but can be lift with human hands.In the past, the ancients used them to build houses, walls, but little walls thru the countryside in order to keep wolfes and wild porks out of the farm/pastures where the cows/sheeps/crops were.Now we NEED to call someone to build for us something that will COST us money and that will go in pieces at the first storm.See the fuck there ? What we built before, was maybe not beautiful but was solid, heavy, and the materials was free, you just had to go looking for stones; and as a proof, it's very simple : thoses walls and houses built in rocks by my ancestors all around the south of Europe, they are there since a few centuries.And there wasn't even sticks or anything to keep the stones so they cannot fall.They just put the stones on the firsts ones.And it was hard to break that, proof again ; they survived the 2 world wars and some napoleonian shit.Now, we totally lost the method and exept of some 90 years old peasants that still alive, nobody could build that again and it would cost alot to retrieve the method.

So yeah, basically we aren't going in the good way, and I doubt that now we can go back to choose the good one, sadly...

[deadalive200]

Youre right...Good old technics are gone, we don't believe in shit any more, everything costs somethings, and we lost our potential to machines that can't think or evolve.Sad.I have a perfect exemple of that.In my region, the Provence, and the south of the France generally, we found rocks everywhere.They are pretty heavy, but can be lift with human hands.In the past, the ancients used them to build houses, walls, but little walls thru the countryside in order to keep wolfes and wild porks out of the farm/pastures where the cows/sheeps/crops were.Now we NEED to call someone to build for us something that will COST us money and that will go in pieces at the first storm.See the fuck there ? What we built before, was maybe not beautiful but was solid, heavy, and the materials was free, you just had to go looking for stones; and as a proof, it's very simple : thoses walls and houses built in rocks by my ancestors all around the south of Europe, they are there since a few centuries.And there wasn't even sticks or anything to keep the stones so they cannot fall.They just put the stones on the firsts ones.And it was hard to break that, proof again ; they survived the 2 world wars and some napoleonian shit.Now, we totally lost the method and exept of some 90 years old peasants that still alive, nobody could build that again and it would cost alot to retrieve the method.

So yeah, basically we aren't going in the good way, and I doubt that now we can go back to choose the good one, sadly...

[po0ka]

No deadalive, we are too crowed on ourselves to do a revolution.
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By working in a supermarket, i realised nobody knew anything.
A client asks me where is something, i didn't know at that time, so i relied the client to a more qualified employee...
Normally I am the client asking... And i woulkd have wanted a good answer... This lack of knowledge in veried domain proves that we are too specialised.
Like you said blade, we don't know how to fish, hunt, making solid stuffs... Now what we do in pushing button and waiting, and critizing it if it is not faster everyday, because we are more and more hungry.
I've got too much responsabilities to flee away and die in a forest because of my stupidity...
What we need is to stop reproducting and reducing our population, so we would all be a bit more "generally" specified in every tasks.

Who cares about philosophy? Who cares about correct writing? Superficial.
Needs a list of books that i will read when ill finish school...
[How to: find food in the wild, making a shelter, cooking with a fire, cartographying, etc...]

I imagine the day where everyone vanish and i am the last person on earth... I would scavenge around for food, and read books on how stuffs works... Ohwait, where to find them? All what ill find will be Harry Potter, twilight, and some unknown kid shits. We messed up our world too deeply to restart.

[deadalive200]

No deadalive, we are too crowed on ourselves to do a revolution.
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By working in a supermarket, i realised nobody knew anything.
A client asks me where is something, i didn't know at that time, so i relied the client to a more qualified employee...
Normally I am the client asking... And i woulkd have wanted a good answer... This lack of knowledge in veried domain proves that we are too specialised.
Like you said blade, we don't know how to fish, hunt, making solid stuffs... Now what we do in pushing button and waiting, and critizing it if it is not faster everyday, because we are more and more hungry.
I've got too much responsabilities to flee away and die in a forest because of my stupidity...
What we need is to stop reproducting and reducing our population, so we would all be a bit more "generally" specified in every tasks.

Who cares about philosophy? Who cares about correct writing? Superficial.
Needs a list of books that i will read when ill finish school...
[How to: find food in the wild, making a shelter, cooking with a fire, cartographying, etc...]

I imagine the day where everyone vanish and i am the last person on earth... I would scavenge around for food, and read books on how stuffs works... Ohwait, where to find them? All what ill find will be Harry Potter, twilight, and some unknown kid shits. We messed up our world too deeply to restart.

Your too stuck to old human ways. Soon we shall become Robotic humans with I-Phones Attached to our chest. And you know what, I like that.

[deadalive200]

To add to myself. I will say this.
I'm more, Not the path to reduce our tech and Humanity itself to become more....I don't really know what your planning afther that, feels and shit i guess
But more the path we will make our lifes so easy with our tech that soon they will be so easy to humans, there will be no need for us.
with that. I'm Communist, thats why I call for revolution. too crowded? just more blood then, is all
Ah well. Humanity will live, part of me hopes this will be the hight of humanitys tech, I could imagine humanity living like this forever, just I know thats what people in Rome used to say