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Well, hi everyone.

I just played allstars a night ago, and this map is very, very played, I even hesitate the about the use of the word "overplayed".
This map is more close to a dm map than to a dr map.

Combines are giving free almost everytimes and when a player select a music (Yes, we don't talk about ending there but about DM where we choose between 3 boring and repetitive musics), so when a player select a music, everyone is teleported there, even if thoses players didn't finished the map.The DM, when there's 4 combines and 25 players, can be very long, and boring.And it still played on a deathrun server.

Plus there is some glitches that some players (>.> Diehardlego that gives a very bad exemple of his admin trialship)), that some players does and it can delay the gameplay...There is alot of corridors, towers, explosions, etc, well, it's definitely more a dm map than a deathrun map.

That's why, and I know it alot will be against that, that's why I ask, either to delete the map or to edit it to make it more like deathrun map (Less corridors, towers, etc etc and more -deadly- traps, + no teleportation of players that don't have finished the map yet when one choose a end music).
And adding a rule that doesn't allow anything that the creator didn't planned to be used by the players (Glitches...<.<)...
Another rule that should really be applied to this map is - Only 1 freepass allowed and only 1 warning to combines who give smore freepass, before combine ban.

I know this seems strict, but for real deathrun players like me, who don't want to play jump or dm on a deathrun server, it's very annoying.

Please, consider my complaint.
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There's already a rule on limiting free rounds tho. The dm part of the map is wat makes it 'unique' and enjoyable. If your asking to remove it you logically would want to remove the puzzle maps too.
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John Freeman wrote:Well, hi everyone.

I just played allstars a night ago, and this map is very, very played, I even hesitate the about the use of the word "overplayed".
This map is more close to a dm map than to a dr map.

Combines are giving free almost everytimes and when a player select a music (Yes, we don't talk about ending there but about DM where we choose between 3 boring and repetitive musics), so when a player select a music, everyone is teleported there, even if thoses players didn't finished the map.The DM, when there's 4 combines and 25 players, can be very long, and boring.And it still played on a deathrun server.

Plus there is some glitches that some players (>.> Diehardlego that gives a very bad exemple of his admin trialship)), that some players does and it can delay the gameplay...There is alot of corridors, towers, explosions, etc, well, it's definitely more a dm map than a deathrun map.

That's why, and I know it alot will be against that, that's why I ask, either to delete the map or to edit it to make it more like deathrun map (Less corridors, towers, etc etc and more -deadly- traps, + no teleportation of players that don't have finished the map yet when one choose a end music).
And adding a rule that doesn't allow anything that the creator didn't planned to be used by the players (Glitches...<.<)...
Another rule that should really be applied to this map is - Only 1 freepass allowed and only 1 warning to combines who give smore freepass, before combine ban.

I know this seems strict, but for real deathrun players like me, who don't want to play jump or dm on a deathrun server, it's very annoying.

Please, consider my complaint.
Thanks for reading.
So what if it's more of a dm map than a dr map? That's where the fun begins, deathrun maps start to get old and boring, we need more maps like Allstars to help us enjoy a bit more with unique features other maps don't contain.

If combines are giving free "almost every round" then tell an admin and he/she replies "idc" you are allowed to report the admin for not enforcing the rules and doing his/her job properly. It's good that "all" the players get teleported because then there is an equal chance of winning, it's fair on noob's who have never made it to the end and at least they get to experience something new. If you are tired of the songs type "snd_restart" in console and you won't hear it anymore.

Everymap has a "glitch" sometimes, "allstars" is one of them maps. If a player glitches then tell an admin and if he/she ignore's like in the example above, report them.
If there is no admin then report the player. The more corridors there are the more chance you can survive the more chance to experience fun. Everytime I play allstars I get a smile on my face.

If Travis delete's the corridors, towers then there will be no fun, dude wtf? if you hate on this map so much then first, you're not a real deathruner and second don't play it then, go watch porn or something. No, all maps have all the same rules and it will stay that way, there is not going to be a specific rule for the map about free pass, that is a universal rule and if you can't wait 2 rounds then you sir must work on your patience.

"I know this seems strict, but for real deathrun players like me, who don't want to play jump or dm on a deathrun server, it's very annoying."

It doesn't seem strict, it is strict.

"For a real deathrun player like me"

Erm, no, you are not a "real deathrun player", I don't know who do you think you are by trying to call your self a real deathrun player. You know in fact, everyone who connects to ANY deathrun server and plays it a bit they are real deathrun players because they took part in deathrun, they are real and they play it which make's them real deathrun players.
If you are getting mad because of a "newb" who doesn't know how to play, why don't you teach him how to do stuff, everyone started this way in every game, first thing you do is to learn about the keys and surroundings and the aim of the game.

Fury, you was and always will be that "special" player who has to complain about everything and start fights, like you did before, seems like you haven't changed and probably you should be banned for longer now?

If you meant "real deathrun players" as in the best deathrun players, then you're wrong. You're not one of them, the "group" of players you are talking about do not exist, everyone is a "real deathrun player"
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It's actually OK to glitch in that map.. I think Papa told me that it's allowed if ur not getting down earlier than you're supposed to do.

Anyways ur an admin so just warn the combines.
I'm giving free rounds all the time myself, because most of the rebels sucks which makes it easy to kill many of them. - No admins are warning and i haven't heard any complain yet :P
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Demon, you need to figure out that everyone has the right to complain about what they want on this server, if you check this topic, you'll see that many of them has done the same thing than me.
Also, you need to stop overreacting every time I post something.I am unbanned and yet I didn't broke any rule, so get over it.

About allstars, everyone can have his own opinion on it BUT as we play on a deathrun server the map would need to fit deathrun.If you want to DM, then go on a DM server, that's not that hard.But the map need to be atleast edited, if not deleted/adding a specific rule.As I am admin, and actually more than the half of the combine are giving freepass more than 2 round, I will follow the simple procedure : Warn --> kick --> ban, no more, and it doesn't matter if I'm too strict.

Old map are still very fun to play, watch helix, hot desert, deserted, etc..?
And the most of the new map are created with the "old map" style, like you said.

I'm not complaining about puzzle map because there is plenty of them, deleting them all isn't possible and we can't edit them to make them like deathrun maps...But one map that don't fit deathrun, we can edit it, at least, or add some rules...I am kinda able to wait and kinda patient tho, but 2 free rounds per map seems enough, if there is more, that's were it begin to run on my nerves...I can understand when there's few people on it, to give unlimited freepasses, but when th server is full or like 25 players on it...No, definitely no.

Sorry that you took my "real deathrun player" sentence bad, I didn't made it in order to hurt you.You're kinda right on this point, I may have gone too far but what I wanted to say is that some players seems to prefer dm or jump, but keep playing on deathrun...Whatevenr, I didn't said that for saying "yeaha im part of the best group".You are wrong, then, if you still think that.

Definitely, you need to stop overreacting everytimes I post something that don't fit your tastes.
I have the right to post, to complain as much I want, as long it's valid and as long I don't break any rule, and please tell me in wich post did I wanted to start a fight...

So now everyone please let's go back to the topic without overreact or rage...Or fight.Please.
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What you hate might not what other people hate.
There must be a reason why it's "overplayed".
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[NBG]Aya wrote:What you hate might not what other people hate.
There must be a reason why it's "overplayed".
Didn't said that I hate it, neither that I want it deleted and everyone must hate it, don't get my words wrong :| .

It is overplayed because of people that prefer play deathmatch than deathrun, it was fun at the beginning, but after 16000 rounds...Well :/

But your comment does make a sense...Some people should read it >.>
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What made me and most likely Demon too think you are just complaining is how you worded.
I know you didn't say you hate but your nuance wasn't quite like 'can we make this map better'.
It was more like 'I hate it because it's boring so just remove it maybe?'
If they wanna play dm they simply just go dm,don't they?
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[NBG]Aya wrote:What made me and most likely Demon too think you are just complaining is how you worded.
I know you didn't say you hate but your nuance wasn't quite like 'can we make this map better'.
It was more like 'I hate it because it's boring so just remove it maybe?'
If they wanna play dm they simply just go dm,don't they?

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[NBG]Aya wrote:What made me and most likely Demon too think you are just complaining is how you worded.
I know you didn't say you hate but your nuance wasn't quite like 'can we make this map better'.
It was more like 'I hate it because it's boring so just remove it maybe?'
If they wanna play dm they simply just go dm,don't they?
Then, I am very disappointed and sorry, I wasn't right to blame you two.Yes, I worded it too badly.I still learning engrish, teach me pl0x :3
So I'll say it now, deleting the map is just the farthest decision to take, in my point of view.First, as I said in my 1st post on this thread, if a good mapper could edit this map to make it better (More ends, more deadly traps, less DM-aspect), then I'll be very happy, and certainly some other players.
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[NBG]Aya wrote:What made me and most likely Demon too think you are just complaining is how you worded.
I know you didn't say you hate but your nuance wasn't quite like 'can we make this map better'.
It was more like 'I hate it because it's boring so just remove it maybe?'
If they wanna play dm they simply just go dm,don't they?

Come back
+1.You was a nice lady to play with.Now, server may be more popular, but good people is remplaced by pricks (No offense there).
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John Freeman wrote:Demon, you need to figure out that everyone has the right to complain about what they want on this server, if you check this topic, you'll see that many of them has done the same thing than me.
Also, you need to stop overreacting every time I post something.I am unbanned and yet I didn't broke any rule, so get over it.

About allstars, everyone can have his own opinion on it BUT as we play on a deathrun server the map would need to fit deathrun.If you want to DM, then go on a DM server, that's not that hard.But the map need to be atleast edited, if not deleted/adding a specific rule.As I am admin, and actually more than the half of the combine are giving freepass more than 2 round, I will follow the simple procedure : Warn --> kick --> ban, no more, and it doesn't matter if I'm too strict.

Old map are still very fun to play, watch helix, hot desert, deserted, etc..?
And the most of the new map are created with the "old map" style, like you said.

I'm not complaining about puzzle map because there is plenty of them, deleting them all isn't possible and we can't edit them to make them like deathrun maps...But one map that don't fit deathrun, we can edit it, at least, or add some rules...I am kinda able to wait and kinda patient tho, but 2 free rounds per map seems enough, if there is more, that's were it begin to run on my nerves...I can understand when there's few people on it, to give unlimited freepasses, but when th server is full or like 25 players on it...No, definitely no.

Sorry that you took my "real deathrun player" sentence bad, I didn't made it in order to hurt you.You're kinda right on this point, I may have gone too far but what I wanted to say is that some players seems to prefer dm or jump, but keep playing on deathrun...Whatevenr, I didn't said that for saying "yeaha im part of the best group".You are wrong, then, if you still think that.

Definitely, you need to stop overreacting everytimes I post something that don't fit your tastes.
I have the right to post, to complain as much I want, as long it's valid and as long I don't break any rule, and please tell me in wich post did I wanted to start a fight...

So now everyone please let's go back to the topic without overreact or rage...Or fight.Please.
How am I over reacting? I am writing what the truth is and what many other players may think too.
Yeah, you're unbanned, so? I am not getting over it since I have nothing to get other.
If that map wasn't a deathrun map Ant would totally not add it to the server, logic mate.
DM is a part of deathrun, that's why there are endings on the map to kill the other team.
The map doesn't have to be edited, yes it may needs some fixes to stop glitches and to make it look better but other then that nothing in the design has to change.
It's good that you are sticking to the admin procedure. That's the way things are done in the admin job. Keep doing it until problem is solved.
The player difference shouldn't affect the server rules, no matter how many players there are the rules are kept the same.
You didn't "hurt" me, you actually made me laugh because of what you believe you are thinking just because you are admin and you play on a deathrun server.
I am not over reacting on everything you post, I am always writing the truth about the topic. I didn't say you have no rights to post a topic but making useless topics which won't change anything isn't necessary.
No one is raging here, if you think I am raging by posting this and the other post then you are wrong, you may think I am raging because of how I reacted to things in the past but shit changed since then, rage is when you absolutely mad and you cannot control your self over your anger, Well weird, where do you see rage in my post?
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Then, I am very disappointed and sorry, I wasn't right to blame you two.Yes, I worded it too badly.I still learning engrish, teach me pl0x :3
So I'll say it now, deleting the map is just the farthest decision to take, in my point of view.First, as I said in my 1st post on this thread, if a good mapper could edit this map to make it better (More ends, more deadly traps, less DM-aspect), then I'll be very happy, and certainly some other players.
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B.U.G wrote:
[NBG]Aya wrote:What made me and most likely Demon too think you are just complaining is how you worded.
I know you didn't say you hate but your nuance wasn't quite like 'can we make this map better'.
It was more like 'I hate it because it's boring so just remove it maybe?'
If they wanna play dm they simply just go dm,don't they?

Come back
+1.You was a nice lady to play with.Now, server may be more popular, but good people is remplaced by pricks (No offense there).[/quote]
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[NBG]Aya wrote:
Then, I am very disappointed and sorry, I wasn't right to blame you two.Yes, I worded it too badly.I still learning engrish, teach me pl0x :3
So I'll say it now, deleting the map is just the farthest decision to take, in my point of view.First, as I said in my 1st post on this thread, if a good mapper could edit this map to make it better (More ends, more deadly traps, less DM-aspect), then I'll be very happy, and certainly some other players.
Don't worry~ be happeh~
B.U.G wrote:
[NBG]Aya wrote:What made me and most likely Demon too think you are just complaining is how you worded.
I know you didn't say you hate but your nuance wasn't quite like 'can we make this map better'.
It was more like 'I hate it because it's boring so just remove it maybe?'
If they wanna play dm they simply just go dm,don't they?

Come back
+1.You was a nice lady to play with.Now, server may be more popular, but good people is remplaced by pricks (No offense there).
nein :3
But thx ;3
Do you still play,BUG??[/quote]

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