Actual society/modernity - Best way of life ? Debate

[Nicdel]

@po0ka
You didn't hear about Japan (Fukushima) nuclear crisis on same level as Chernobyl..?

Hey hey, it was not on the same level. One level below. It sure was a big thing but there never was an actual meltdown.

I hope you are trolling...
Both are on level5 which is highest and there was a meltdown.
Actually we got higher radiation rate if you include ocean and land around.
You might wanna stop trusting what you see on tv and read news or check on google.
My ex was very smart going there without any protection on him.
He died few months ago by complication of asthma.
He was only 31.
I'm ready to get the fuck outta here.

Yea, sorry, gotta admit that I was not completly right there. It was on the highest level (7) but I'm still pretty sure there was no meltdown.
Sorry to hear that your ex died because of it.

[commander fury]

@po0ka
You didn't hear about Japan (Fukushima) nuclear crisis on same level as Chernobyl..?

Hey hey, it was not on the same level. One level below. It sure was a big thing but there never was an actual meltdown.

I hope you are trolling...
Both are on level5 which is highest and there was a meltdown.
Actually we got higher radiation rate if you include ocean and land around.
You might wanna stop trusting what you see on tv and read news or check on google.
My ex was very smart going there without any protection on him.
He died few months ago by complication of asthma.
He was only 31.
I'm ready to get the fuck outta here.

@Aya : I am sorry for your ex...Japan never needed such energy producers like nuclear plants...After some researchs on the internet about it, I found that Japan isn't in a urgent need of energy, nothing like nuclear plants was needed.Japan is an island, so companies there can perfectly use tidal and hydroelectric plants.Nuclear p.plants have been only made to make more money.

And about information sources, I always check x4 sources if I need.You'll see that in some cases, the informations are very different, and to get the truth, thats...hard.

@All : But you should really read 1984.

That's sad but that's surely how humanity will end up like, seeing of what is done actually...But we can't do anything against it, exept reporting it to dumb peoples that will never trust it.

@Pooka : Therefore, I still think that an epidemy is the wrong way to take a "new start".Eugenism isn't a way neither.So what ? Take care of peoples i nneed if you are richer.We will all die a day, so as this, living happy is the most important point.And there's full of space ready to be taken too.So people dying in mass isn't the solution.And what are you gonna do, with your "new society" ? So much dead bodies will cause disease, sickness, etc...

@Aya and Nicdel : Levels or things like that don't count, exept for politics or scientifics taht can maybe change some things to the actual system to make it better.But nuclear energy isn't the solution.Why ? Two proves, two words : Chernobyl, Fukushima.And certainly more in a decade.People died, people have and iwll have uncurable diseases, and die because of that scourge.Enviromnent, nature has been polluted.And will be.Ocean, fishes, damn...Well, I guess that with the streams its past Japan now but it will always remain somewhere, poisoning animals and humans that are eating animals.
I may seem too strict, but a nuclear-energy ban would be nice.
--> Less nuclear garbage to stuff we don't even know where...
--> Less dramatic events and accidents.

Other sources or energy ? there's plenty !

--> Geothermy
--> Tidal
--> Hydroelectricity
--> Solar energy

...And certainly much more left undiscovered...

So mankind have all the keys to start again and live peacefully with its planet.But it needs will too.When money will stop taking so much space.When we will be free to dress, talk, do what and how we want.When we could appreciate simple things.And all...

Thanks for reading.

PS : Sorry for the grammar.There's always some faults left even after a preview.

[Aya]

Yea, sorry, gotta admit that I was not completly right there. It was on the highest level (7) but I'm still pretty sure there was no meltdown.
Sorry to hear that your ex died because of it.

Yup, highest was 7 not 5.
About meltdown, you can read this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_ ... r_disaster

Well thx.
He was a good guy but wasn't smart enough.
There's also an old announcer who ate Fukushima vegetables on tv to show how ”safe” they are.
Now he has Leukemia and staying in the hospital.
We still live here like nothing is going on.

[B.U.G]

@Aya Hey ,may i'm stupid , but what means "ex"?

[Aya]

@Aya Hey ,may i'm stupid , but what means "ex"?

You're not stupid BUG xD
ex=ex-boyfriend

[B.U.G]

@Aya Hey ,may i'm stupid , but what means "ex"?

You're not stupid BUG xD
ex=ex-boyfriend

Oh sry to hear that..

[po0ka]

The places with snow and all mustn't be civilized, if we do, and warm these places, we will get unexpected disasters on the continents.
The thing we really need to develop if we wanna survive: Seaweed that would grow with same lights as weed. It would give us all the nutriments we need, and we can make them away from the sun. We can use solar panels to make these lights to grow these.
It's not all! We could make buildings underearth to be safe from cyclones, hurricanes, and shits. (We would have to face earthquake, but meh, we always have to.)
Changing the world is harder than you think, there may be 30k++ planets where we can live, but our material won't allow us to reach a high distance.
We need a nuclear boosted with hyrogen and solar panels spaceship that can contain plants, seeds, humans, and all, where we can restart clean with our knowledge.

Sidenote: I'm not from france, i'm from Canada, in quebec.

[commander fury]

I mean, we can put some of the areas of the "iced" continents under dome, clean them, and only under the dome, warm theses up.Or simply, live with the cold.
An easy solution is to create floating cities too.
Underearth buildings ? Light to grown plants without the sun ? the surface of the earth only populated with solar panels ? No, thanks.It's our planet, not ours completely, but we are created to live on it.Not to go get buried underearth...What a shitty, artificial life we would have.
In few decade of years, large-space travels in the Universe will surely be possible, if we put in it all the money...
But your idea, despite of having a little bit of eugenist ideology in it, is quite good.Restarting on another planet safely, cleanly, with our knowledge...What a dream.

[Aya]

@Aya Hey ,may i'm stupid , but what means "ex"?

You're not stupid BUG xD
ex=ex-boyfriend

Oh sry to hear that..

Thx

[po0ka]

By underground buildings i meant like, 50%? Still having the actual buildings, but, making most of them a bit buried in the ground to have more places. Always wished to have a vast nice green plane, forest, river, or whatever in large zone or rather one building here and there to ruin the place... We must also think about fishes, ground animals, air animals, we take more and more space everyday, so, if we can reduce our city radius or expand downward a bit more than actually, we can save lot of space.
(i know what will happen with sewers, but you know, "magic hax occurs!" xD)
In australia it would be really dangerous though, with floods and all...
What we need is...

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The Mordor.

[commander fury]

You sir make a point.Yes, we must stop expanding our city radius, you're right, I forgot that.
But the human is kinda "programmed" to live under the sun...Plants too...Animals too...What about expanding in the air ? I mean, if we can expand a little bit on the Moon, Mars, on the oceans, on the unpopulated large spaces, in your unergrounds buildings, and in my towers...Well, I think that the problem of overpopulation will disappear.We could repopulate little towns, farms, fish places, you know, now that there is an rural exodus everywhere...It would have two advantages :
-More free spaces in the cities, as there is alot of forsaken country spaces ready to be populated with city's inhabitants.
-More food for the country's inhabitants and for the export.
So it would have 2 advantages, 1 for the level of hapinness, 1 for the economy.And it's a cheap solution to make thoses derelict farms repopulated.

@Aya : Don't know if I already said that, but, sorry to hear that your ex died...You have my deepest condolences.

[commander fury]

To re-launch the debate, take a look at dat :

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That's kinda how worked capitalism 100 years ago.Now it better looks like that :

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And if we watch close to it, we can see that in all of their interventions for "peacemaking", there is an hidden objective.But why ? That's the question.Everyone know there's an hidden objective in every war that the northern countries begin.But they're FULL of resources ! Why taking the resources of the other and being greedy like that ? To have the best economy.Yes, the money is, here again, a source of bad things.Plus, the wars that we're making are totally useless...I'd say it, the last useful war was the 2nd.

[Peter Brev]

Why did you double post?

[commander fury]

Why did you double post?

Nobody could have seen my opinions if I edited my last one.

[po0ka]

I think i kno, and this is what i would do;
If i want to survive n the Earth, i will start by exploiting the resources elsewhere, and when it is depleted, use yours.
That's just for selfishness.